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Old 11-27-2007, 09:15 PM   #101
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Really, once you get over 3,000 mAh, the extra is pretty meaningless. I used to play two weeks on a 1,800 mAh large.

Unless you are running a heavily upgraded gun, you don't need that much reserve power.
Thats info I need. Thanks.

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Old 11-27-2007, 09:46 PM   #102
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Heh LiPos are a pandora's box. If you got your gearbox down right a LiPo can be rewarding. For me, that actually means being constantly vigilant to make sure your gearbox is in top condition. Corollary to that, you know something will fail sooner only because of the sheer speed that a LiPo will drive your motor and gears.

As for the DVD battery - there is a long ignored/hidden/forgotten factor - discharge rate. A DVD battery though may have a high mAh or may even a high voltage rating - the electronics do not need or may not be able to take a high discharge rate.

Thats why cell for cell - alkaline batteries will not compare against a lower voltage nicd or nimh.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:13 PM   #103
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Just a quick question, is it possible to have a large type batery in an ECHO1 G36? The battery compartment looked really small, just big enough to fit the battery it came with.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:37 PM   #104
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You can either use a small-to-large adapter and tape the battery to the forend, OR you can get a battery sling.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:15 PM   #105
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Which is better with a 8.4V battery pack a 7.2V charger or a 9.6V charger?
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:42 PM   #106
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Post a link to the two chargers, please
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http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...6/chargers.jpg
I just put them on my scanner.
I hope this is good enough for you to be able to tell which to use.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:12 AM   #108
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That actually helps quite a bit.

You must use the 9.6v charger. The charger has to have a higher output than the battery you are charging
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I'm gonna start charging up then. Thanks for your help
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:22 AM   #110
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You did remember to do the math, right? You don't want to overcharge.

If you don't know what I am talking about, go back and read the first post in this thread. The charging time formula is in there.
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It should be like 5 hours 36 mins. for a 1400mah battery on a 250mah charger right
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:36 AM   #112
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I have asked a couple questions so far on this forum and every one has been answered fully so I just want to say thanks for all of your help.
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:17 AM   #114
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i have suspicions that my "universal smart charger" hasnt been finishing the job lately
is thier any good way to tell if its just my batteries wearing out or if the charger is taking a crap?
when i plug it to a fully discharged batt. it seems to me that its not taking as long as
it used to to say its done (green light). also the batteries are dieing sooner but
its also been very cold so im having trouble figuring out which it is.
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:37 AM   #115
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could be a bit of both. What I do when it says it's charged far earlier than I expect, I hit the "charge button" again. This will usually have it finish charging.
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If it still acts up, discharge it all the way then recharge it. Sometimes they get uppity and need to be shown who is the boss.
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qucik question

Hey guys, I have a NI-MH battery that has been sitting around a few months with out being charged. Could I just charge it and use it for tomorrow or do I have to discharge it? The only problem is, is that I can't find my discharger.
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My understanding has always been that NIMH batteries never needed to be discharged - they don't develop the "memory" that NiCads do.
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if you have a stock charger and a 1500 mah battery how will it take to charge and how long will it last?

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about charging times, i took my battery's capacity (600mAh) and divided by my chargers output (7.8V), and got 80, rounding up. this doesn't seem right to me did i do something wrong?
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about charging times, i took my battery's capacity (600mAh) and divided by my chargers output (7.8V), and got 80, rounding up. this doesn't seem right to me did i do something wrong?
Your charger has to have a HIGHER voltage output than your batteries for it to work. 7.8v isn't enough for an 8.4v battery.

Also, you can't divide volts by mAh. You have to find the output of your charger in mAh, then do the math like you did above.
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well, i let it charge for about 3-4hours, and i tested the battery, and it shot.

the battery type is, 8.4v hyper command ni-cd battery, for my TM G36C
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You will never get it to fully charge using that charger. The good news is that you probably can't hurt the battery with it.
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i find it odd WGC would give me the wrong charger, guess i will have to buy another one.
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Well, I just got my Echo 1 G36C. The battery is 1100 mAh at 8.4 volts, and the charger outputs 250 mAh at 8.5 volts. I did the math, and charged it up for about 4 hours and 24 minutes. Yet the battery only lasts for about 600 shots before the motor doesn't even turn over. My mom thinks I have a bad battery, but I think the battery just sucks in the first place. Is the amount of shots normal?
PS: Does Montgomeryville Army Navy carry batteries and chargers?
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I would place my bet on a bad battery and get a new one. And yes, Army Navy Store does sell them.
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Those batteries suck, best to buy a new one.

Also, upgraded guns chew through the juice, so bigger (more mAh) is better.
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Can I send in my battery to Echo 1 or Airsoft GI and get a replacement? I would like to have an extra.
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Who knows you might even get 2 batteries back if you do what palafoxx is talking about.
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How do you make a discharger vs buying one.
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Can a G&G m16a3 hold a 9.6v 4200MaH battery? I heard that the max mah for them is like 3000MaH
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I've been able to fit a 9.6v 4200 in my CA M16A2's full stock, which I assume is the same size as the G&G's, but I'm not completely sure.
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4200 mAh batteries have larger cells than their smaller counterparts. I wouldn't chance it. Look at the first post on this page (do it again, because you read the thread before posting in it, right?) for my previous comment on batteries this large.
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Capacity/charger doesn't take into account the resistance of the cells. You might want to go over 10 - 20% on the first charge but make sure the battery doesn't get hot. If you leave a battery on too long or forget a battery overnight you can fry it. I have a 1500 that I left on over night the second time I charged it and it won't unload a high cap now.

I think the best advice you can give anyone is to buy a smart charger. You can pick one up for about $35. It is the first "upgrade" I recommend people get. Your don't have to worry about your batteries getting fried. They will always have a peak charge when they are done. Not under/over charging them before you use them will increase the life of the battery.
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What battery pack should i get for a TM m16a2? I was thinking about getting a Intellect 8.4V 3600mAh Large Battery.
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What battery pack should i get for a TM m16a2? I was thinking about getting a Intellect 8.4V 3600mAh Large Battery.
That will work, just don't go any bigger or it may not fit.
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If you have a smart charger you don't have to discharge right?

If you have a smart charger you don't need t discharge right?

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NiCD = Discharge.
NiMH = No discharge.

The smart chargers just keep you from damaging your batteries when you charge them. Some do have a discharger built in, but you have to select it to use it. I don't think any of them are automatic because you don't want to charge a battery immediately after discharging it (unless you are conditioning the battery)
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my smart charger says Ni-MH/ Ni-CD but i dont know how to discharge

the only selection is .9A / 1.8A
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If you only have those two selections, you don't have a discharger built in. Fortunately, there is a thread that tells you how to make one

http://www.c3airsoft.com/showthread....ger-14635.html
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Wait but the charger is supposed t shut of when the battery is full so why would i need to discharge?

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