It says you should charge your battery for 14-16 hours, but if I have a 9.6v 1600mAh battery and a 250mAh trickles charger... Then 250mAh times about 6.5 hours would get me 1600mAh. Right? If so, then why would I need to charge my battery for so long?
/Also, is it ok to use up part of your batteries life, store it away, and then take it out a week later and keep firing it? Or are you suppose to fully discharge your battery every time you use it?
Thanks.
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It says you should charge your battery for 14-16 hours, but if I have a 9.6v 1600mAh battery and a 250mAh trickles charger... Then 250mAh times about 6.5 hours would get me 1600mAh. Right? If so, then why would I need to charge my battery for so long?
/Also, is it ok to use up part of your batteries life, store it away, and then take it out a week later and keep firing it? Or are you suppose to fully discharge your battery every time you use it?
Thanks.
What says you should charge a battery for that long?
Your calculations are correct, though I always charge about 10% longer when using a trickle charger.
"Typically when using a slow charger or Trickle charger for a 1200mAh pack , anywhere from 14-16 hours would safe." Sorry quotes messed up but this is what the first post in this thread says.
Mine's also a 1600mAh pack, which is bigger than a 1200mAh pack. It just sort of confused me.
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Austin,
You did the math correctly, as Lou stated. They tricky part about charging with a simple 'wall wart' charger like the kind that you probably got with the gun is that the charger has no idea how much capacity remains in the battery pack when you plug it in. If you only used it for a mag or two of shooting, you've got a lot of capacity left in it. This is where your math goes out the window, unless you first discharge the pack. Then you have to be careful that you don't discharge the pack too far since you can damage the pack too.
If you are not a new-comer to the airsoft arena, and plan on staying for a while, get yourself a smart charger. These will range anywhere from $30 on up to $200 depending on what you buy. The expensive ones will give you options to save the battery profile, which is very nice when you find yourself charging different size packs. Also, the more expensive chargers will charge all sorts of batteries, not just NiCd and NiMH packs. They will also charge the pack using 'peak detect' which will tell the smart charger when the pack has reached full capacity. Very handy for unattended charging. Obviously, these chargers will also discharge the pack prior to charging them if you wish to cycle them. This is not required for NiMH, but I like to do it occasionally to keep the packs in tip-top condition as long as possible.
I use a Triton charger that I had from my previous hobby (RC Helicopters) and I love it. It does it all and more. You can find them for $50 used on eBay or your local hobby store for about $100 or so.
Something else to add, that is probably discussed in this thread somewhere, is the way NiMH battery packs quickly lose their peak charge. For example, a fully charged NiMH pack will lose about 5-10% of it's capacity, in a day or so, after chargeing it. That might not sound like much, but a large 3600mAh pack will lose up to 360mAh on the first day due to the self-discharge rate of this kind of battery. They also lose up to 1% of the remaining charge each day after that. So it always is a good idea to charge the battery pack the day before you plan to use it if you need to squeeze every last mAh out of the pack. A smart charger really helps in that situation, especially if you are charging 3 or 4 packs for multiple guns.
For example, a fully charged NiMH pack will lose about 5-10% of it's capacity, in a day or so, after chargeing it. That might not sound like much, but a large 3600mAh pack will lose up to 360mAh on the first day due to the self-discharge rate of this kind of battery. They also lose up to 1% of the remaining charge each day after that. So it always is a good idea to charge the battery pack the day before you plan to use it if you need to squeeze every last mAh out of the pack.
I charged my 1600mAh battery pack for 6.5 hours on sunday, and then I put it away. Will this take effect on the battery life, and what do you think I should do with the battery now? Is there anyway to reverse this?
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I'm pretty sure this was covered before - the longer you let a battery sit the more the charge will bleed off, but not at a terribly fast rate. Negligible effect on battery life, and any time a battery isn't going to be used in the next few days always unhook it from anything - that's just common sense. Reverse what? There's nothing to reverse...
Honestly though, I've had The cheapo blue universal charger since I started in Airsoft and I've never had a problem. It charges my batteries perfectly, is so easy even P90 could probably figure out how to use it, and is affordable. If you're really going to be bugging out over your batteries then get this or something better.
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If you read through the thread you'll find there are several factors that determine whether or not you should need a 2nd battery.
What FPS does your AEG shoot, what mAh is the battery you have, is it NiCad or NiMh, what temperature do you plan on playing (IE: Fair Weather Airsofter or down-to-the-30s-is-game-time), how old is the battery? Etc etc.
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I bought the smart charger and so far it has served me well. Haven't had problems with my batteries since.
Thanks for the advice.
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Does that equation still work if your battery is not completely dead? Like if you used it that day, and its not dead, but you want to have a strong battery, should i still charge it for the amount of time i get after calculationg it? I got 4 1/2 hours for the equation. i got a 300 ma output on charger, and 1300mah for battery capacity?
I'm not sure if someone has asked a question like this already, but if they have sorry! I'm looking the get the Echo 1 MP5 A5, and all the information says about the battery is that it is a small battery in the battery grip. http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2611. I was wondering if the charger for this battery could still charge a 9.6v 2000mAh box battery as shown here:http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3599. And also how long would it need to be charged for? Again sorry if someone already answered this type of question! Gracias.
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I'm not sure if someone has asked a question like this already, but if they have sorry! I'm looking the get the Echo 1 MP5 A5, and all the information says about the battery is that it is a small battery in the battery grip. http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2611. I was wondering if the charger for this battery could still charge a 9.6v 2000mAh box battery as shown here:http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3599. And also how long would it need to be charged for? Again sorry if someone already answered this type of question! Gracias.
I have this gun and a similar PEQ2 box (3300mAh 9.6v). Getting rid of that foregrip is a good move. It's difficult to tighten, and tends to pop off during a game if you don't tighten it with a wrench.
You'll probably want to pick up a new foregrip, or use the original one without a battery in it since the RIS is not comfortable to hold on to.
1: learn how to spell BATTERIES
2: Clearly, Palafoxx wasn't answering you. Someone posting in this thread after you've asked a question does not make them obligated to answer your question. Since we frown on giving out bad secondhand information, if someone doesn't know, chances are they will (as they should) just stay quiet.
Or, buy a charger that can run a discharge cycle. Look at all the money we spend on guns and gear... intelligent battery chargers are usually overlooked as part of your mandatory support gear.
I just bought my Smart Charger this past week.
For those who don't know, this has to be one of the best Airsoft Purchases I've done since getting into the sport.
Basically, my batteries were charged a week or so ago. I plugged them in and I basically topped them off. As soon as the Green light came on they were done. I didn't spend the evening, checking to see, if the batteries changed in temperture. Guessing maybe I have a full charge in them.
Anyone have some info on a good charger? I have a Pro Luxalfa charger now.I have found that anytime my son and i have come out a couple of yrs back.Our batteries DONT LAST near the time of anyone else playing.Im told this charger is not peaking out the batteries.I 100% am going to buy a new 1 this week since my son will be home from Iraq for 18 days and we planning on coming out to Poco Loco.I sure dont want to see him with a dead gun and mess the day up.I was looking at this charger at this charger http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRST9&P=FR at Hobbie store near me anyone have any info good bad whatever.Even if you have a better option feel free to comment.Thanks guys Hope to be throwing BB's with you guys soon.
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Merged with the Battery thread - read the info in here regarding chargers. If you still have questions after that feel free to ask, but I think you'll find this is already covered (I think this same exact charger or something VERY similar).
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Sorry but did not find the information i was looking for in this threadThis thread covers charging /discharging not chargers themselves.Only 1 charger has really been brought up and that was the cheap smart charger.
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Damnit... you're right it seems... I honestly could have sworn I read something about that charger in here. Well I apologize for the mixup - HOWEVER a forum search did turn up this thread with a mention of your proposed charger & some discussion.
Based off of what I read I think you should send a PM to Caliban and Ari to get some more information based on their experiences (They aren't exactly super-active but they probably will answer a PM on the question). You can try sending a message to Striker but he hasn't been on the boards in almost a year.
Leaving the question, discussion, and link here if no objections.
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Spoke to Tom (aka Calaban) a few weeks back,The charger he told me about was out of stock.Justwanted some advice if anyone else knows anything about this charger before i dump $60 on something that isnt any better than what i already have.
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I bought this new charger and im 1000% lost with the setting (well im sometimeslost in other depts but thats for another days topic) Its Super Brain 960 I have both NIMH and NiCd packs. So far if im reading right I want to be using 1amp charging rate for any style pack? Now the part where im really lost.Milli volt(MV) setting.This from what i gather tells the charger when the pack is fully charged. Has a setting from 5 to 50 with being able to change 5mv adjustments.,,ANY advice on these setting would be great.
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I charge at 1 amp for every 1000Mah of battery capacity. I wouldn't play with the mV setting. Plug the battery in, manually set the charge amperage, and hit start. The 960 automatically handles voltage settings and peak charge detection.
To late! Already played with!Right now the Mv is set at 30.Should i change it to something else?Not like there is a default setting.Im to afraid of cooking any of my packs.I may have to sit on the sidelines and watch you guys play with the headway im making with a new charger.I do have several packs .Some are 1100 Mah all the way upto 2000Mah.The 1700Mah charge at like 1.5?Can i just charge everything at 1amp and it will just take longer?
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Does it matter what smart charger i get? Or will any smart charger work to charge the battery? (I have a NiCD 9.6v 1500mah large battery for my echo 1 m16) Also would it benefit me to geth a Nimh battery instead?
While looking through the other posts in this thread, I have not found an answer for the following question I have. I have a 8.4v 1400mAh "mini connector" crane stock battery. Would it be possible/safe to use a connector size converter on a wall charger that has the output of 12v DC and 300mA? The charger has the larger connector. I ask this because I recently bought a G&G Gr-16 R4 Commando, only to find that they shipped me this charger/battery... Obviously I can not connect a large and small connector together.
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Using a large-to-small adapter will have absolutely no effect on charging (please don't post telling me how it is going to increase resistance. I know it does, it won't matter).
Just do the calculations based on your charger's mAh output.
I was wondering, I lost my 8.4v battery charger, but still have my 9.6 charger. I want to charge a NiCD 8.4v 1800mAh, should I order a new charger or can I use the 9.6v charger?
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I have an upgraded TM MP5. When I plug in my large 8.4V battery it runs fine. However, when I try to use an 8.4V mini battery, it won't turn over. They're both the same voltage, so I don't understand why it won't work. Any idea why?
I have an upgraded TM MP5. When I plug in my large 8.4V battery it runs fine. However, when I try to use an 8.4V mini battery, it won't turn over. They're both the same voltage, so I don't understand why it won't work. Any idea why?
The gun can't pull enough amperage out of the small battery to turn it over. More mAh = more amps available
I got a Refurbished CYMA AK 47 and it came without a manual so I have no idea how long to charge it. I have been charging it for 4 hours, but am no sure if that is enough. Also how long will it last on a full charge?
Battery says: CM Ni-MH 7x2/3a 1100 mAh 8.4v
Charger says:
CLASS 2 POWER SUPPLY
model: YXDO8402501 - 18
INPUT: 120V AC 60Hz 90mA
OUTPUT: 8.4V DC 250 mA
Any help would be great.
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4 hours is good. To find out how long to charge your battery, you take the battery's mAh (1100, in this case), and divide it by the charger's output, which would be 250 mAh an hour; giving us the answer of just over 4.
And now you know!
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