There are many threads about battery chargining, but you have to divide the mah of your battery (1100) by the output of the charger (250), which comes out to 4.4, so around 4 and half hours should be fine for your battery.
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There are many threads about battery chargining, but you have to divide the mah of your battery (1100) by the output of the charger (250), which comes out to 4.4, so around 4 and half hours should be fine for your battery.
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I have a TM Mp5 RAS and I'm looking for a extra battery. The stock battery is a mini 8.4v 600mah Nicad. I would like to buy an 8.4v battery with more mAh, however I read a review of the mp5 on Arnie's airsoft that said "you are limited to the standard 8.4v 600mAh mini battery as it's the only one that I know fits in the grip.".
Does anyone know if it is possible to fit a 8.4v with more mAh than 600 into the gun?
I guess that works, I just wasn't sure becasue the review i read seemed to suggest that it would only fit a 8.4v mini with 600 mAh. I was pretty sure that and 8.4 mini with more mAh would fit but i wasn't sure. Thanks Connor.
I would just take the standard off and put the Deans that spot. Could that improve charging times as there would be less resistance?
Umm...no. You still have the same crappy wiring.
Honestly, the amount of additional battery life you get out of installing those stupid connectors is hardly worth the cost. It's just a way for "airsoft gurus" to look like they know something.
That's what I have now and love it. It also has a built in discharger for any nicad batteries.
Thanks, that's what I needed to know.
Lou, I actually have these installed in my P90 right now, and I (think) noticed a little boost in rate-of-fire. Anyways, it's too late for me to not put the Deans on the smart charger.
Thanks though.
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Also a word of advice, if you charge a battery with the clamp style (like jumper cables) cord, make sure you connect the wires to the charger FIRST, and then to the battery. I just learned the hard way by burning myself. I plugged the two clamps onto the deans connectors and right before I plugged the cables into the charger somebody decided to have a conversation with me. The short circuit caused the battery to heat up and start smoking in about 10 seconds. Luckily I unclasped the charging cables before it did any real damage to the battery. (smoke was just caused by the plastic that covers the batteries melting)
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I was in on Monday and was talking to a gentleman (forget his name, sorry) about Deans connectors. These are the ones that I was referring to - http://www.wsdeans.com/products/plugs/micro_plug.html - they are nice and small, and can handle airsoft w/ no issues. They make two versions, the one w/ three prongs is the idiot proof ones.
Remember, this isn't R/C cars. The Tamiya connectors are fine.
I used Deans connectors on a few R/C helicopters, but that was far from airsoft.
Tamiya connectors are junk, garbage, worthless. 90% of the time the pins come out of the plugs, they get way to hot & melt, and again are just junk. Deans are zero loss connectors, so you do not loose any current like w/ the Tamiya. Hardwire is the best way to go, but that would be a PIA w/ airsoft. I know you guys have been back and forth before on Deans, but after spending hundreds on a gun, why not upgrade the electrical for under $3? Also, the micro Deans are so much smaller, it makes it a lot easier to hook-up and load pack into the guns.
Have to remember the difference in uses here before you jump the gun on that claim. We are running low voltage low amp currents through on a non-continuous basis. Airsoft is a very different beast in the makeup of the way in which the electricity is used than RC, though the basic theory is similar.
You don't have to throw away everything you've ever learned from RC, but you do need to open up to the reality that what you know doesn't necessarily maintain absolute certainty in Airsoft. I've got Deans wired on one of my guns, and it's more of a hassle than anything else, and I've seen zero inprovement in performance of either the AEG or the battery. So from my experience Deans is nothing but an overhyped unnecessary elitist tool, doesn't mean it's worthless though.
To each his own, doesn't mean ones right & the others not.
/Way off topic here. Moving to the Battery discussion, where it belongs along with the other Deans discussions.
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Have to remember the difference in uses here before you jump the gun on that claim. We are running low voltage low amp currents through on a non-continuous basis. Airsoft is a very different beast in the makeup of the way in which the electricity is used than RC, though the basic theory is similar.
You don't have to throw away everything you've ever learned from RC, but you do need to open up to the reality that what you know doesn't necessarily maintain absolute certainty in Airsoft. I've got Deans wired on one of my guns, and it's more of a hassle than anything else, and I've seen zero inprovement in performance of either the AEG or the battery. So from my experience Deans is nothing but an overhyped unnecessary elitist tool, doesn't mean it's worthless though.
To each his own, doesn't mean ones right & the others not.
/Way off topic here. Moving to the Battery discussion, where it belongs along with the other Deans discussions.
What exactly are the motors in the guns (size)? How many turns? How many amps do they pull on average w/ a AEG?
Even w/ the differences from RC to airsoft, you can not say that zero loss of current is not an advantage/benfit. Even if it does not make the gun shoot faster/quicker/etc., a Deans plug will just make a better overall electrical system in the gun.
And if you are having issues with the Deans and space, you might want to try the micro connectors.
Again, it all coms down to a personal preference. My experience with Deans over the years, as well as being sponsored by them for RC, it was just the first logical thing to upgrade for me.
Along w/ Deans, there are also several RC zero loss connectors on the market now: Trinity, Traxxas, and Losi all make them.
I also can't wait to tear open my guns at some point and re-wire them. The stock wire is not very flexible, again, there is a nice RC wire to replace everything with.
While yes, Deans are probably better in every way over Tamiya connectors, they're not really better enough for these applications. Like Jay said, low voltage, low draw... Not really a big deal. Deans works really well in RC because of the low resistance and high current draw application.
I stick with the Tamiya style connectors because it's the defacto standard, and I find myself lending/borrowing batteries often. Might as well have them be compatible.
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I stick with the Tamiya style connectors because it's the defacto standard, and I find myself lending/borrowing batteries often. Might as well have them be compatible.
Not being able to borrow sticks would be an issue, but not being able to loan them out culd be considered a plus.
Does anyone know about the motors as far a s size and wind? I used to build some insane motors for RC cars, wonder what I could do w/ a airsoft.
Has anyone tried or seen a airsoft with a brushless motor....that would be DIALED!
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Has anyone tried or seen a airsoft with a brushless motor....that would be DIALED!
Systema Energy Motor may be...I'm not sure
But anyway I got my own question, How do you guys charge your deans connector batteries? I used to use charging cables but I keep short circuiting my battery which is bad and makes scary sparks. (and just melted the bottom of my battery pack)
Does a tamiya to deans connector exist?
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You didn't put the male end on the battery did you? (the end with the exposed contacts?)
That end ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS goes on the gun side, or charger side of the circuit for just this reason.
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Nope, Jon did the wiring, batteries are attached to female
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A decent charger you can get for a good price is the Universal Smart Charger. I have been using it for years and it works great. You can get them for about $25-$35. Linky.
There are plenty of better chargers out there, but they will cost more.
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I can't stress enough that you should spend the money on a good charger. I also do recommend that you get a charger that will charge LiPo's to. If you plan to upgrade to LiPo's you'll already have the charger. Be smart on this one. You can get some of the packs dirt cheap as well. I purchased a Thunder AC6 which will charge Everything and includes the balance board. A very nice charger at that price.
If you do get a different smart charger make sure you get one that has a display where you can monitor the AMP's and Voltage. Most of the newer smart chargers will also show you the capacity as well. I like chargers that will allow you to dial in the charging rate. i.e. 0.5A to 5.0A. This gives you a wider range of battery sizes you can charge (SC - Large Packs to 4/5A - Mini sizes) Also if you get a better charger you can do much more with them like discharge your packs. Better chargers will have more precise peak detection, so you'll avoid false peaks. Again your budget is going to govern what you ultimately purchase.
I my new XM177e2 from Old Man and I have 3 batteries 2 NI_Cd 4/5SC 1 worked 1 didn't (But that is because it wasn't charged) I plugged the 3rd smaller battery 8.4V - 1100mAh NiMH battery and no go on the XM177 but I put it in my Brothers CYMA Thompson and it worked.
Is the 3rd battery to small for my motor on the XM177? Can that even Happen?
I was reading about discharging batteries after their use, whould keeping them in the gun plugged in de charge them?(I read/skimmed for the past 30 minutes and didnt see that question brought up.)
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Been out of the game for a while and I need to buy a new battery soon, so I decided I'd ask here. What brands do you guys recommend? Preferably in a 9.6 large form, is Tenergy any good? And also, I was told about Li-Po batteries this Sunday, been looking and can't seem to find them, been looking for a 7.2 bigger sized Li-Po. Thanks for any help!
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Been out of the game for a while and I need to buy a new battery soon, so I decided I'd ask here. What brands do you guys recommend? Preferably in a 9.6 large form, is Tenergy any good? And also, I was told about Li-Po batteries this Sunday, been looking and can't seem to find them, been looking for a 7.2 bigger sized Li-Po. Thanks for any help!
One tip: NEVER buy airsoft lipos (they are ridiculously over priced)
Alright, I don't know if it'd be better to get multiple small batteries or one large sized one. I've always ran a large just since I never wanted to fear my battery dying, but I don't know if I should change that. Any thoughts?
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Was thinking of buying around three of these . Still don't understand the whole 20C continuous and 40C burst stuff, could some one care to explain that? Like what C rating is good for an Airsoft gun and what not. Thanks!
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When looking into LiPo batteries I found this article very useful.
I have been using 7.4v/20C "Blue" and "Sky" LiPo batteries in sizes from 1600mAh to 5000mAh from hobbypartz.com for 5-6 months and have been very happy.
The only downside to ordering from an RC store is that the batteries come with 4mm banana plug connectors as standard. I couldn't find an adapter to convert from the 4mm plug to a Tamiya connector so I bought large and small Tamiya connectors to replace them.
My experience with trying to securely crimp wire into Tamiya connectors has convinced me to order some of the 4mm banana connectors so I can make my own adapters. It seems so much less time consuming and stressful to make one or two adapters than to keep buying new Tamiya connectors and shouting at them when the wire pulls out...again.
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Ugh, getting so torn between ideas. Do you guys think it'd be better to run multiple Li-Po's like three 1600 Mah Batteries? Or 1 Behemoth like a 4400Mah battery? Thanks!
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Ugh, getting so torn between ideas. Do you guys think it'd be better to run multiple Li-Po's like three 1600 Mah Batteries? Or 1 Behemoth like a 4400Mah battery? Thanks!
If you can use a larger lipo, use it. More mah means more bb's fired between recharges. A 4400 would easily last all day.
I'm aware of this, but then I run the risk of if I toast a battery or something y'know? Like if it gets damaged and etc.
Well a large battery would most likely be used in a full stock gun, so there is not really any way it could be damaged. As long as you follow proper charging and don't let it discharge to far, you will be fine. Lipo's are very safe, especially the new ones.
My plans were if I were to get a large, make a mock battery sling. But I kind of also leaned towards the small guys cause they would fit in all my guns.
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I found this article very helpful in selecting a Li-PO battery. In the article, it explains the C rating, a formula which tells you how to find the wattage (the ability of the battery to do work, which will tell you the ability to pull back the spring, as well as the rate of fire), and other valuable information. What I did to find which Li-PO was right for me, was I used the formula on of my NiMH batteries(whcih usually discharge at a rate of 12C), then looked for a battery with similar performance. This worked pretty well.
Here is another link where there are some good Li-PO batteries. This is where I bought mine, and it also comes with a mini-type tamiya connector. I went with the tenergy and it lasts a really long time. I heard that they tend to have a higher discharge rate than what they are rated, but it doesn't seem to.
Hi guys, I'm looking to get into LiPo batteries, but need some help. I've read up on them and am still confused about how to properly take care of them. Other than using the proper balance charger and watching while the battery charges, what else do I need to do?
I'm looking at buying my LiPo's from Elite Battery Packs, as I've heard that they are quite good, while being extremely cheap. I'd like to buy this battery pack (any idea if this will fit a buffer tube?) and this simple charger.
Now, I've read that I should get one of those fancy $65 smart balance I-can-charge-anything chargers, but do I really need one if I'm only going to run LiPos? Will the smart charger I've selected work well for a long time, or is it just a beginners charger that will eventually destroy my batteries and lead to my house burning down?
As far as accessories go, do I need to buy a LiPo bag? I figured I'd get one in case, but if I charge my battery properly will I need it? Also, do I need one of these Airsoft LVCs? Do I just plug it into the battery and use it until it starts beeping, or do I plug it in after every game?
I am sorry for all of the questions, but I'm very hesitant to use these as I don't want to burn my house down or spew battery acid all over myself. Any help you can provide me with would be greatly appreciated, as I'm quite clueless when it comes to NiMH batteries - let alone LiPo's. Thank you!
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