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Old 09-22-2009, 01:49 AM   #1
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Airsoft innovations Tornado Grenade

I bought the Airsoft Innovations Tornado Grenade on a whim. It seemed to be getting good reviews and there was a promotion where each grenade came with a free spoon kit. I bought it from gungas.com, the retail side of Airsoft Innovations. The grenade normally comes with a rubber cap and pin. I personally prefer the spoon option because with the original Tornado, once you pulled the pin, the timer would start. With the spoon, you can pull the pin but hold the spoon down till you wish to deploy the grenade. Very useful for airbursts which I will cover later. The picture below has the spoon kit already installed on the grenade. Installation took a matter of minutes and is quite simple.


Grenade with Spoon Kit installed.

Arming the grenade is easy. With the spoon on and pin in, fill the grenade with propane. Once on the field, screw on the bottom cover. I say on the field because once you do this, the grenade will fire its payload if the spoon is released. Without this cover, all of the gas will blow out the bottom. Once you have a target, pull the pin and throw.


BB port. One on each side

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Armed

The grenade itself is very study and will survive many throws. In addition, it is completely reusable. However, you do want to keep track of where you put the pin after you throw it. Also, I suggest tying the spoon to the grenade with 550 cord and tape to prevent loss of the spoon which likes to disappear in the grass.

There are three different arming options. Instant detonation, 1.5 second delay and a 3 second delay. This is where the spoon kit comes in handy. The airburst is perfect for tossing the grenade around a corner or through a window when you're right next to it. To set it for airburst you remove a plug on the top of the grenade. The 1.5 and 3 second delay are adjusted by rotating a knob in the spoon.


Instant doom

Delayed doom

Now this is all well and good but how does the thing perform? Quite well. Properly lubricated, the delays are consistent. The BB spread is virtually 360º. Even laying in tall grass the grenade manages a good spread. The airburst is quite effective. Ideally, you would be throwing this onto rocks or concrete where the grenade spins on the ground. Initially, I ran into problems with the delay sometimes going upwards of 15 seconds. Not that useful for a grenade. I discovered I was not properly lubricating the grenade. When putting in the grenade oil (Which I recommend purchasing if you do get one of these grenades), ensure that the piston is fully depressed so the oil can enter the chamber. This immediately solved the delay problems.


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I’m quite happy with the little bastards. Completely reusable, 180 BB’s flying every which way and good reliability make for a great grenade. At almost $100 they’re not cheap but you’re paying for a quality product. I've yet to use them in a game but they've gotten plenty of abuse flying around my apartment and the parking lot. I will update once I've actually used them in a game.


Size comparison. Grenade next to TM G18 AEP
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:55 AM   #2
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WTF? You didn't even set it off in the room. Half-assed review if I've ever seen one

You should have seen these things at OP: HS. They were deadly on the concrete. Well worth the price, if you ask me.

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Old 02-13-2010, 09:04 PM   #3
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So, are these grenades allowed to be used at LP? I own one, and I just want to make sure they are okay to use.
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:35 PM   #4
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Yep, they're legal at LP and PL. They're probably not very effective though, what with all the dirt and brush. They work best when on hard surfaces.

And if you do bring it, you gotta be careful where you throw it. Don't hit anyone with it.
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Haha, yea, I'll make sure I don't throw it like a baseball and peg anyone with it.
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Old 02-14-2010, 12:28 AM   #6
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Re-read the Skirmish Rules - they are allowed and you can only toss them underhanded.

Though when Bracket says they're probably not effective I will tell you that they're definitely not effective. DkHelmet brought his out to the field a few times. Useless.
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I have read the rules, and I knew grenades were allowed, but I read on another thread about certain kinds of grenades not being allowed unless tested, and i just wanted to make sure, but thanks for the heads up.
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I saw a grenade that would work effectivly for throwing on dirt/grass. Instead of spinning the bb's come out from all sides of the grenade.
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I used two AI tornado grenades in a weekend game at PL. Due to the cold weather green gas didn’t really work well. But, if you use it inside the PL castle I can see it be very effect.
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Found an update on Airsoft Innovation's newest toy. They are not for sale yet, but look like they could be very useful in a CQB environment. Enjoy.

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I'd like one of those! I can see where detonating instantly on contact would be more useful in many situations.
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While they are nice, I would only spend the money on them if I played a lot of MOUT or CQB. One of our teammates picked up 2 tornado grenades, and they dont seem to work too well out in the woods. Since they're rarely on a hard surface, they dont get that "spin" effect, and it shoots the BBs out all half-assed.
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