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Old 02-14-2010, 02:56 PM   #1
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Classic Army M1911-A1 First Impressions/Review

Most reviews start off with background. I feel safe to say that the majority of players, if not all know what a 1911 is so I'm not going to include this part. If you want background, Google it.

Now onto the review.

I wanted to get a M1911-A1 GBB. I love the design of it and find it very comfortable. I looked at my options which were TM, KWA/KSC, WE, and KJ Works. The KWA I through out right away. The Glock that I used was KWA and I find it not nearly as good as people make them out to be. The accuracy was so-so, and I hated the proprietary parts. Another thing I hated about their guns is that they look butt-ugly. Particularly their M1911-A1 has a stupid shiny black slide which does not match the frame at all. KJ Works suffered the same atheistic problem. The WE had the correct color to it, but it also suffers from the same deal the KWA has; lack of parts. Not to mention the awful cool downs WEs have. This left me with TM. I really didn't feel like spending 300-400 dollars on a GBB that only gets used half the year and as a back-up as I rather put that money towards a Auto Ordnance M1911-A1 so I looked even harder for alternatives to the TM and metal body kit. Then I thought of CA. I remember looking at their pistols in my CA Catalog that came with my M16-A1.

The Classic Army pistols debuted in 2008. To this day, not only do the majority of airsofters not know this, but retailers like Evike.com aren't even aware! Finding reviews proved damn impossible. I found one Arnies Airsoft review which I found did an "okay job". The review seemed pretty poorly done as he gave the 1911 a 9/10 while he complained about a lot of problems in his review. The other reviews I found (which were like only like two) were in Filipino so I had to use poor Google translation to somewhat understand what the heck they were saying. The overall consensus that I got was that the CA pistols were plagued. However, on the CA product site, I noticed that the guns had some parts painted blue. I researched some more and find out that they released new versions of their pistols for 2009. CA currently produces four pistols: Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 26, and lastly a M1911-A1. Finding absolutely no reviews on these pistols, I chanced it with the 1911 as I had no other options for a good overall M1911-A1. And I'm glad I took the chance.

There are only two places that carry CA pistols that I know of: Cobra Airsoft and UN Company. The 1911 at Cobra Airsoft was only $59 plus shipping while UN Company was $80 plus shipping. I contacted Cobra Airsoft asking if they carried the new version and they responded within an hour that they did. I just want to take a moment to thank Cobra Airsoft as their customer service was very fast responding to me and very helpful. I have never used them since this, but I plan on using them in the future to get some mags/upgrades.

My total for the pistol was only $85 shipped - a little more than a WE if you factor in buying an extra magazine.

The box:



Everything you get:



-Gun
-Magazine
-Multi-tool
-BBs
-Cleaning/Unjamming rod
-Manual
-Shooting Targets

Overall, I really like the presentation. Not as nice as the TM, but not annoyingly shiny and flashy like the KWA. But hey, who really cares?

Taking out the pistol, I found it REALLY REALLY REALLY dirty. First thing I did was disassemble and clean. Then I re-lubricated everything. I even went as far as taking apart the magazine and doing the same thing. I recommend users do this especially with this pistol as I found the magazine extremely dirty as well. I also spent four sittings taken off the stupid orange tip with alcohol swabs. The gun came with a KWA-like orange tip and was a pain in the arse to take off. Eventually, I got it all off with only minor damage to the edges of the gun.





The gun has a great finish to it. It replicates the parkerized finish of the real one quite nicely. Unlike the first model, the paint is evenly distributed. If you were, wondering, CA did not cut back on the metal quality. The build is metal alloy. When you think about it, metal isn't very expensive, and when you first feel the CA, you start to wonder what you are really paying for with a $60 more KWA. One thing that is funny is the Guarder Metal Body Kit is $120 just for the slide and frame. The metal on that kit is no better than this... -_-



Unfortunately though, the paint on the outer barrel isn't quite up to par. While all outer barrels wear, this one seems to wear a little faster than it should.





A nice ".45ACP" engraving.



Here you can see the blue loading muzzle and the blue magazine lip. The only other blue part is the hop up wheel.



Here's the magazine which is quite heavy. As I stated earlier, the magazine lip is blue. This new magazine does not leak what so ever (not even when filling which my KWA Glock did!). One great thing about this gun is that it is TM compatible (More on that later). So TM and KJW Works mags will work as well! (Please do not use Bell mags...)

Disassembly is the same as other 1911s.
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Old 02-14-2010, 04:23 PM   #2
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Take out the slide lock.



Pull the slide off and the frame is separated. On the debut model, the slide and frame were a little different from the TM model. The CA cut back on quality and did not have the extra groove to reinforce the slide. Well this one does and now the slide and frame are TM compatible. Again more on that later...



Here we have the slide with everything in place... Let's take it apart!



Remove spring guide, spring, and bearing. Notice that they are all very well constructed and more reinforced than the debut ones. Also notice that the spring guide has a hole like the TM model...



Twist and pull out the bushing...



Pull out the outer barrel/inner barrel/hop up unit assembly. I also took this apart and re-lubricated everything. Notice that the assembly as the rod which the spring guide fits on like the TM model. The debut CA model did not have this. Also notice the blue hop up wheel. All the internal plastic is painted blue and is very good quality unlike last years model. The hop up wheel's teeth are not brittle.



Here we have the slide and loading muzzle.



The loading muzzle plastic so it's blue and seems very strong. I don't expect it to break soon.

There have been a lot of changes from the debut model without increasing the price. All the major problems seemed addressed and I think it is something to give credit to CA for. The magazine does not leak anymore, the slide and frame are TM compatible, the three plastic internal parts have been upgraded and are very sturdy now, the spring guide is very strong, and the outer barrel now has a rod for the spring guide to rest on. That's a lot of improvements in one year and their second year of making GBBs. Before, about 75% of the gun was TM compatible, now I think everything is TM compatible. This is a real plus as there are tons of parts and upgrades you can put in this thing.

But let's hold off on the summary for a minute and look at a shooting test. Remember, looking for precision in this test, not so much accuracy.



At the time of the test, only about 60 BBs had been fired through it. So the hop up has not completely settled in yet. I took 10 shots with the gun rested at 25 feet away in a closed place. Unfortunately, there was a drift to the left as air had been circulating through the basement drying wet snow close, so my shots were left some. They were also lower as the hop up was off.

At 25 feet, I got a 2.25" grouping with 7 shots; the other 3 did not land on the paper and were probably just left. Still, the majority of the shots were pretty damn close. And better than those of my KWA Glock 26.

As all double stack 1911s, unless it is pretty hot out, you will not get the whole mag fired off with one gas filling. At about 62 degrees Fahrenheit, I was able to get off 19 shots. The magazine holds 25 BBs (I know it says 24+1 but mine can fit 25+1 with ease) so you can do the math...

Overall, I am extremely impressed with my purchase. The gun is cheaply priced($85 shipped!), full (?) TM compatible, no leaky mag, great metal quality, correct color of the paint, and shoots very well. My two minor complaints are that I wish the outer barrel had better paint (but that is easy to fix with bluing), and that the plastic internal parts are blue (though I feel confident that soon they will change that as they only did that to more physically show the public all the changes they've made). As of now, I'd say that this definitely the best alternative to spending $400 on a full Guarder kit and TM M1911-A1. I've only put about 150 BBs through it so far... Time will tell how the pistol lasts, and I will keep this thread updated, but from what I've seen so far, this 1911 will have a bright future.

My upgrades planned are buying 2 mags, a Mad Bull tight-bore, and an Action Stainless-steel spring-guide and set.

I highly recommend these pistols and Cobra Airsoft.

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Old 02-26-2010, 11:08 AM   #3
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Do to your advice and this review, im getting this gun. My only question is im having trouble finding a tightbore, do you have any reccomendations?
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:41 AM   #4
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I plan on getting a Madbull 1911 tightbore from airsoftgi. Nine ball, creation, and all those other brands will work.

WE, TM, KJW, and CA all use the same barrel type.

Please understand though that I have not had this for more than a month. While everything seems like it is built very well, I will only be sure as time passes.

Though, at $85 and being TM compatible, it is very easy to repair unlike a gun that is not fully (or even mostly) TM compatible like a WE.

Also take in consideration that I strongly recommend re-lubricating the whole gun and even the magazine. Though, this requires little to none knowledge about airsoft and instead just general knowledge about taking stuff apart.
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Oh its fine, it really is my only viable option right now for a 1911, and it seems like the best option. Though it really isnt usable in winter is it?
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Green gas = a no
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A little over four months later...

No problems. Bought a KJW 1911 mag for it... Works perfectly fine. TM compatibility IS confirmed by: ME!

This is one gun I'm proud to be the US guinea pig for...
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Great Review.
I am 100% buying a Classic army 1911a1 from cobra. My question is how is the quality of this gun because I was looking around on cobra and the KJW was even more expensive then the CA. Sorry if you answered this question already its just that the saying "you get what you pay for" really kicks in when the total cost for the 1911a1 is about $60.

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Great Review.
I am 100% buying a Classic army 1911a1 from cobra. My question is how is the quality of this gun because I was looking around on cobra and the KJW was even more expensive then the CA. Sorry if you answered this question already its just that the saying "you get what you pay for" really kicks in when the total cost for the 1911a1 is about $60.

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Airsoft guns are really cheap over seas. A typical TM here may be $250 but there $160. Different markets = different prices. So far, the quality of this gun has been very good. But may I remind you, it's only been four months and the fact that I had to clean this gun very well when I got it...
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Have you used duster gas with the gun?
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No. However, being that this gun uses the same system as the TM and KJW, air duster should work fine.

Though you may be fine for Old man's warhouse with green gas. Being the idiot that I am, I forgot to chrono this yesterday to get an exact reading. The FPS should be 300 give or take a few.

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No. However, being that this gun uses the same system as the TM and KJW, air duster should work fine.

Though you may be fine for Old man's warhouse with green gas. Being the idiot that I am, I forgot to chrono this yesterday to get an exact reading. The FPS should be 300 give or take a few.
Idiot!!! Remember, put it on full auto and then chrono.
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I suggest to anyone purchasing this gun to purchase it with another magazine or more because the one it comes with is not that great.

The KJW one is perfect for it.

Basically you are buying a GBB without a magazine but since it's $85 and resembles a 1911A1 more so than any other GBB, it is still a great buy. No problems with the gun still.
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