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Old 01-31-2010, 09:01 PM   #1
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Gun won't shoot

I was shooting my Echo-1 m16, when it stopped shooting. I checked the mag, winded it, switched mags, etc. Finally, the battery stopped working altogether, and a few bb's rolled out of the barrel. I tried a different battery in vain. My guess is the fuse is blown? Any other ideas? And if so, how would I check/know if it is the fuse?
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The fuse will have a burn mark on the strip of metal inside the glass tube if it's blown. What type of sound does your gun make?
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I was shooting my Echo-1 m16, when it stopped shooting. I checked the mag, winded it, switched mags, etc. Finally, the battery stopped working altogether, and a few bb's rolled out of the barrel. I tried a different battery in vain. My guess is the fuse is blown? Any other ideas? And if so, how would I check/know if it is the fuse?
Make sure there are no bbs in your barrel. So disassemble by taking out the two pins that hold the receivers together. Remove the hop up and barrel and take a look inside. If you do not see light through it, the barrel is jammed. If you do see light, unscrew the bottom of your pistol grip and check to see if the two wires are secure fastened on the motor. Reassemble and shoot now. If nothing is shooting out of the gun, your tappet plate is probably broken.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:31 PM   #4
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It doesn't make any sound. It is the same as if no battery were plugged in. I used the cleaning rod to check, and I am pretty sure there isn't any bb's jammed in the barrel. And if it were the tappet plate, It would still make noise, wouldn't it? Nothing happens at all with the battery plugged in.
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It doesn't make any sound. It is the same as if no battery were plugged in. I used the cleaning rod to check, and I am pretty sure there isn't any bb's jammed in the barrel. And if it were the tappet plate, It would still make noise, wouldn't it? Nothing happens at all with the battery plugged in.
It's probably the fuse then. Take it out, and look for a small burn mark on the metal strip inside of it.
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check the fuse....replace with automotive 20A or 25A if necessary....

check your connections....there's a "connection" in the stock that might have come loose.....OR one of the wires to the motor may have come off....take off the plate at the bottom of the grip to check for that....

make sure battery is fully charged by trying it on another gun.....
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OR one of the wires to the motor may have come off....take off the plate at the bottom of the grip to check for that...
If it isn't the fuse, my money is on one of the motor connectors.
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I checked the fuse, it looks fine. Also, when I pull the trigger and the battery is in, it makes a slight clicking sound. To check the motor. Would I just pull it out of the grip and check it out, or leave it in and just peek around?
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I've been getting this problem too. With a fully charged LiPo, it only barely moves the motor and makes the same click sound.

EDIT: When I took the motor out of the gun, it moved, but not a lot.
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To check the wires on the motor, remove the base plate on the bottom of the grip. Remove the two outer screw on the plate. Don't move the set screw in the center of the base plate. That set screw sets the motor height, which could also be your problem, if you tightened this screw too much.
When removing this plate, make sure you don't drop the metal spacer into the grip. It will stick to the outside of the motor if you do. Once you have removed the base plate, look at the two connectors attaching the wires to the motor. One of them may have come off the motor. Just push it back on and give it a try.

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It's probably the fuse then. Take it out, and look for a small burn mark on the metal strip inside of it.
By the way, that isn't a 'small burn mark' on the metal strip. The metal strip in the fuse is designed to vaporize at a certain amperage, protecting the rest of the circuitry. The blown fuse is an open circuit, not a burnt one.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:52 PM   #12
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If possible try the connections with a different motor you may have.
Play everything safe and check for every problem first before you start buying parts that get lost under the table.

So I suggest if you have one put another motor in the gun and see what happens....
If you don't have one laying around talk to a guy on here and schedule them to bring a crappy motor they have that functions properly or get a motor from a friend... as a last resort call up a place like armynavy and ask if you can test your gun there and if needed leave it there to be repaired/ parts replaced.

Since your gun is 'broken' this would be a good time to save money for a tm or other high end gun... hehehe
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:21 PM   #13
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I'm just too scared to screw anything up, and if i did find out it was a motor connecting problem, I probably wouldn't know how to fix it anyways. I'll check out the motor when I have time. Probably end up bringing it to montarmy navy and hoping maverick or someone there can fix it real quick. Don't you worry, I roll with an extra echo-1. :)
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When I first opened up my gun I was just as scared. Look up a good video guide (the ones made by TheAirsoftReviewer1 on Youtube are pretty good), and it should be easy. If you have to take your GB apart (you shouldn't have to for this problem), just make sure the spring guide doesn't fly across the room.
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this may help....
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Okay, Well, I checked everything I could without taking the gear box out. Couldn't find anything that looked particularly wrong. I guess it's g36c time for now. And I'll bring it in to Montarmy Navy when I have time or maverick is there.
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if there is a clicking sound when you pull the trigger, it isn;t the motor contacts.....

you have a locked up gearbox, a not charged enough or bad battery, or a bad motor, or in some rare cases, as connector that isn't making a good connection....

also if you are using an connector adapter (small to large/large to small), I have seen them things not be able to let the current flow sufficiently either.....
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I tried 3 different batteries, so it isn't the battery pack. And I'm not using a connector adapter. Sounds like a bigger job than I had hoped...
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now you're down to a locked gearbox, a bad battery charger, a bad motor, or someone unknown/unlikely electrical semi-short.....
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Thanks for all the help everyone! The charger charged mini's for my g36c that worked fine. Montarmy Navy is about 10 minutes away; I'll drop by there and see what they can do, or pm maverick.
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