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WHAT!?!?! does that mean no more TMs:'(
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They are not going to ban all airsoft guns. Mr.Tanaka made a gun that easily could be used to discharge real ammunition, which is illegal in his country. It is his fault for designing the gun without thinking of this. Sometimes ultra realism must be given up to assure a safe product.
But like I said, I highly doubt Japan will ban a super popular sport just because one manufacturer messed up.
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There was one airsoft company that made a type 96 machine gun that could take a high powered gas which could kill or seriously injured. But that was resolved and luckily no one got hurt and they were recalled.
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I'm still skeptical. This is the first article I read where some specifics from the MPD experiments are mentioned: "In an experiment, the MPD found toy guns of the series can fire real bullets without any modification and are powerful enough to shoot the bullets through six four-millimeter-thick wooden boards."
In every other discussion I've seen, the MPD would only comment that "the guns could be modified to shoot a real bullet with enough velocity to would or kill" but would not give specifics as to the modifications or even if the gun survived firing the bullet. Here, they state "without any modification".
I don't know, something about this doesn't seem right to me. Every Tanaka gun I've seen, though very high quality, are still almost entirely plastic and not very rugged, though I've never actually seen a casyopea revolver. When it comes to airsoft though, I'd rather see manufacturers err on the side of caution and keep attention like this away from the hobby.
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I agree, There is absolutely no way one of these guns could fire real ammunition without ANY modifications. apparently even the press over there twists things to suit the governments agenda.
This has got to be one of the dumbest anti airsoft news stories. First why would anyone try to modify a airsoft gun to shoot real bullets. If I'm not mistaken airsoft guns are not designed to handle the stresses of a real firearm.
Lets just say hypothetically you did someone manage to get a airsoft gun to fire real bullets
when it fires all you'll get is a nice explosion and airsoft gun shrapnel in your face.
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This has got to be one of the dumbest anti airsoft news stories. First why would anyone try to modify a airsoft gun to shoot real bullets. If I'm not mistaken airsoft guns are not designed to handle the stresses of a real firearm.
Lets just say hypothetically you did someone manage to get a airsoft gun to fire real bullets
when it fires all you'll get is a nice explosion and airsoft gun shrapnel in your face.
you would be suprised at how much stress something can handel if you make it corectly. Like how you can make a real gun out of paper that fires actual bullets.
My decree of "Bullshiat" stands. NEITHER of them shows him firing a real bullet. The K98 one wasn't even a real blank. It sounded like a cap going off. And if that AK is paper, I'm the queen of England. I know what plastic looks and sounds like.
And who the hell is using the name "C3airsoftreviews"? It certainly isn't a C3 staff member.
First, watch your tongue, junior. We're having a discussion and disagreeing with each other. If you want to turn to name calling, you are going to find yourself looking for another forum.
I don't care what some marble-mouthed idiot on youtube does. Guns have to stand up to enormous amounts of pressure when a cartridge is fired. Paper doesn't have the mechanical strength. His "AK bullets" had no primer, how are they being fired? As I stated before, he didn't even put a real blank cartridge in the K98. If he did, it would have exploded. Have you ever fired a blank? I have. Have you ever seen a blank fired with the cleaning rod in the barrel? I have. It goes through small trees. Some piece of **** cardboard and a fence aren't going to stop it like it did in the video.
Ok then but I belive I sayed that he was using normal black powder that a real cartrige that uses smokless powder. Also black powder does not explode with the same force as smokless powder. The cartrige that he makes himself will not hold the bullet as tightly as a real cartrige. Then finaly hes not using as much powder as a real blank would fire. My origional post was worded a badly. I do agree with you that you can not make a paper gun fire real cartriges. I am sorry for the name calling.
Also black powder does not explode with the same force as smokless powder.
The difference between black powder and smokeless powder (other than the smoke), is the pressures. Black powder operates at much lower pressures, but I still don't think that paper could have sufficient strength to contain the force of the explosion. Now, granted, a small enough charge could be contained in the cartridge itself, but it's not like it's a functioning rifle.
Also, if you look at his AK, the place where the gas tube meets the barrel isn't made out of paper, it's a plastic pipe fitting. I'd be willing to bet that gun is more plastic than anything else.
I sincerely doubt it would be lethal. The standard test for lethality is that the round can penetrate at least 12" of ballistic gelatin. I didn't see anything in the videos that would lead me to believe it would be lethal.
that does not sound good at all.
