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Old 04-04-2006, 11:49 AM   #1
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MP5 help or suggestions

At the moment I have a CA MP5 A4 Tactical. During last weeks games I have really noticed the ranged and accuracy of the gun during long range combat. It really has none and my friend who has the samething has been complaining too. Right now my gun is shooting at around 320fps. What exactly can I do for increased accuracy and range. I really enjoy the gun and would like to keep it as my main.

I have also been looking the CA Ak-47 A1. Which is stated to be at around 350-360fps out of the box according to a few sites. Would this gun be a big improvement with accuracy and range ability over the MP5?

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Old 04-04-2006, 12:04 PM   #2
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RE: MP5 help or suggestions

the problem is not the fps, it is the barrel length and diameter. a tightbore will increase accuracy. also if you throw a silencer on it and extend the barrel through that you can pick up some accuracy as well.

did you fine tune the hopup for a perfectly flat trajectory?
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Old 04-04-2006, 12:12 PM   #3
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RE: MP5 help or suggestions

Yes I set it before the first game by the Chrono area and it seemed fine once set.
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Old 04-04-2006, 12:44 PM   #4
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RE: MP5 help or suggestions

Agree with Sup. You have to be careful because an upgraded FPS does NOT mean that you are going to shoot further, or more accurately (And even if you pay more, it doesn't mean you'll get more).

First and foremost, get a great barrel. This will dramatically help your accuracy, and for the cost, is the best way to do it (A tightbore barrel can start at $30 and go up from there).

There are also a few minor things like getting a good hop up, and good quality bb's that can help as well. Outside of that, the actual length of your barrel does affect your accuracy, but I wouldn't go changing it too much from what your gun already comes with simply because you'll have to find a way to protect your inner barrel with something like Sup suggested, a silencer, or other similar device.

Last but not least, remember that the SMG isn't designed for long range accuracy, but for its quick responsiveness. In a CQB situation where you're simply elminating a tango, forget the one shot-one kill philosophy, and adopt the SAS one: Keeping shooting until you are DARN sure that target is history... (even if you have to reload... twice) When you're out in the open field, just remember to put a group of bb's out at your target, and leave the "one shot-one kill" thing to someone with a long rifle (but as is the rule in airsoft, the difference won't be huge).

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Old 06-02-2006, 08:23 AM   #5
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RE: MP5 help or suggestions

The thing is, and this is from knowledge I've gleaned from my roommate shooting real steel. An MP5 is a CQB gun, so accuracy at distance isn't it's strength. Instead of trying to turn a CQB SMG into an open-field shooter, think about what you really want out of a gun.

I would love to run around shooting an MP5, but my ideal fire fight is a 5 man team clearing houses.

If you do more milsim scenarios (ie: woodland/open field fire fights), then you should look at a rifle like an AR-15, M4, M16, AK-47, or maybe even a sniper rifle (though it seems there are already enough snipers for this group's likings). Look at something an infantryman would carry.

If you look in my beginner's board post asking about thoughts on two guns I'm looking at, I'm going to get an M4 and a pistol. The M4 is a pretty standard infantry rifle. I have that for the typical fire fight you'll encounter at PocoLoco, and I have the sidearm just incase the rifle fails, or I find myself in a CQB situation (like sweeping the 'village') or I'm getting rushed and I need a reload on the M4.

But to answer your question, yeah. If you have the means, going with an AK-47 would be a better answer than trying to mod your MP5. Because there's no guarantee that your mods will give you the results you want, and the AK is a time-tested infantry weapon.

And even with an AK, one shot-one kill isn't always your goal. Coming from the tactical knowledge I've gotten from outside airsoft (and I'm not saying that it's accurate in any way shape or form), but at least a three shot burst, and that's if you know for sure you hit your target. The idea is two strikes to the centermass with a bonus ball to the head.

But for our purposes, bonus balling an eliminated player in their face isn't a way to win friends.
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Old 06-06-2006, 08:20 PM   #6
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RE: MP5 help or suggestions

I did not see anywhere what weight bbs you are using, but if you are using too light bbs like .2s I would suggest trying AE .25s. And that sure is right, tighbores are the best way to increase accuracy, Mad Bull Black Python barrels are really really good for the price. Go to ebay and type mad bull plack tight bore or somehting like that and you can get it 40 dollars shipped.
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RE: MP5 help or suggestions

do not, do not, do not use AE's if you like your AEG's go KSC or Excel....... and hotspot has those tightbores for the same price and you do not have to use that evil known as EBAY
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Re: RE: MP5 help or suggestions

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did you fine tune the hopup for a perfectly flat trajectory?
To get the maximum distance from your hop-up you want it tuned so the BB's go straight, then up a little bit, then right down onto target. The downside to this is if you're engaging a target closer than you have the hop-up tuned for you have to aim down just a little bit.



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do not, do not, do not use AE's if you like your AEG's go KSC or Excel.
Airsoft Elite BB's tested better than both KSC and Excel BB's in many categories.

http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/reviews.php?aid=15
http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/reviews.php?aid=16
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:52 AM   #9
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RE: Re: RE: MP5 help or suggestions

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do not, do not, do not use AE's if you like your AEG's go KSC or Excel.
Airsoft Elite BB's tested better than both KSC and Excel BB's in many categories.

http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/reviews.php?aid=15
http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/reviews.php?aid=16
Yeah I've seen those tests too, and far more. So I bought 3 bags and used them. Well, tried to. I never got past the first bag. They would misfeed TERRIBLY in all my guns (P90, MK23, Mp5, and M4). Even after I lubed up the mags. But Excels fly right out. So I heaved the other two bags, and went back to Excels. I haven't had a misfeed problem since.

I'm not going to recommend AGAINST AEs, but I wouldn't trust testing alone. A lot of people have good experiences with them, I'm just not one of them. Buy a bag, or bum them off someone and try them out.

Also, Player, next time, a little explanation on why you think they're bad would be better. The way you wrote it, you'd think they'd make your gun explode. :)
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RE: Re: RE: MP5 help or suggestions

I've had a bag of just about every quality brand not be too hot in my guns at one time. I guess it's the nature of the beast with out ammo made in the far east from the cheapest possible methods.
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RE: Re: RE: MP5 help or suggestions

actually, we've never covered what "range/accuracy" he's looking at and for? Just that he wants "long range" capabilites. What do you consider long range?

How far away do you want to plink targets? And are you expecting the BB to hitting the enemy's head everytime you put your sight on it? What do you consider acceptable accuracy?

It's very possible your gun is functioning perfectly, and you just aren't getting the results you want/expect. And it's possible no gun will give you those results. There's nothing wrong with that, just you might be expecting to much from the gun.
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