But if I ever give misleading information, which is NOT my inention in the slightest, PLEASE PM me about it. If I post something here, it is because I truly believe in what I type. If I'm wrong, please correct me politely in a private message or on the thread itself.
There is no sense in punishing people with - rep if they don't know what they're posting is incorrect.
But if I ever give misleading information, which is NOT my inention in the slightest, PLEASE PM me about it. If I post something here, it is because I truly believe in what I type. If I'm wrong, please correct me politely in a private message or on the thread itself.
There is no sense in punishing people with - rep if they don't know what they're posting is incorrect.
Thank you.
Here is my .02 cents take this how you want but rep only is a red/green/or gray bubble. It isn't something to get worked up about it is so you learn from your mistakes. It isn't meant to punish you only teach you. Learn from the comments and you will see what is wrong with your post.
That's the problem, I didn't see what was wrong with my post. As I said, If I post something that's wrong, it was a complete mistake. I never post misleading info with malicious intent, but rather helpful intent. Therefore, if I post something technical, it's because I truly believe it's correct.
So please, just send me a polite PM or correct me on the thread so that I may learn what the "right" piece of information is, and learn from my mistakes that way.
I'm not worked up or upset, I'd just like to put that out there.
The biggest problem wih the Rep system in my eyes is -
People give negative rep if they DON'T AGREE with something you say. Now if someone is posting some pointless trash, they should get bad rep.
This topic comes up all the time. There really isn't anything members can do about it but try and give bad rep for stupid posts. Not bad rep because you dislike or don't agree with someone.
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I'm sorry that your delicate sensibilities have been offended by the rep system. At this time, just like every other time the issue comes up, we are unwilling to modify the current system. It appears to work just fine.
You have two choices: Discontinue posting, or modify your posting to minimize the chance for or the effects of negative rep.
Why is this in the Community Affairs area anyway? This has no impact on the general community at all.
By now you guys should make an area just entitled "Rep-whining."
The way I see it, if you're taking the time to put up your own thread on the matter, you're clearly getting worked up about it. I've never given you bad rep, but if you're putting up any misleading or wrong information, you deserve the negative rep.
There is no problem with the rep system, people just think it's way more important than it actually is.
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The only problem I've ever had with it is the messages that come along with it, rather than the rep itself. However, it's nothing really to get worked up about.
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I don't see myself as "whining", but I apologize if I sound like I am. I am just trying to say that the rep system is not designed for trashing people when it's unnecessary. I am trying to remind people through use of myself as an example, that if you have an issue with a piece of info someone posts, the best way to reslove it is not always by being trigger happy with the rep system. Sometimes, it's just an honest mistake. I am actually quite fond of the idea of "rep", I'm just trying to remind people that PM can be just as effective, and a lot less anger-invoking.
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Why is this in the Community Affairs area anyway?
Everyone in this community is subject to getting negative rep. I'm not whining on my own behalf, but rather giving a small suggestion so as to [hopefully] benefit the community as a whole.
Just as a side-note however, because Rich brought up a good point:
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People give negative rep if they DON'T AGREE with something you say. Now if someone is posting some pointless trash, they should get bad rep.
Couldn't have said it better myself. This isn't necessarily the point I was trying to make, but it's just as important if not moreso.
I just want to remind everyone that the rep system shouldn't be used to neg someone if they have posted something that's either incorrect or opinionated, but rather if someone is not contributive, or is being abusive. If someone is wrong, I believe that they should be corrected politely either by PM or on the thread, and if they have an opinion, then they should be entitled to it without being attacked anonymously. Albeit it is only my opinion, so I can only hope that people share it as well.
Ok, this has been said a million fricking times and I will reiterate what has been said before.
The Reputation System is in place to reward good posts and discourage bad posts. That's it. If you post wrong information, then that is a bad post
NOTHING has been said here that hasn't been said before. This is whining about the reputation you're receiving and this is calling people out, albeit in a veiled way.
Again. You have two choices when you receive a negative reputation that is not a personal attack. Improve your posting, or cease your posting.
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Hey Wolf Battle Cry, whining about rep is one reason i was previously banned. So if I were you, I'd accept the negative rep.
Uh no. You were never banned for that because you never did it. Let's try and not make things up, 'kay?
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Everyone in this community is subject to getting negative rep. I'm not whining on my own behalf, but rather giving a small suggestion so as to [hopefully] benefit the community as a whole.
You are whining because you didn't like what you got. Pure and simple. Don't hide behind some bogus "hero of the people" angle. You wouldn't be giving a damn if you had a green dot under your name.
"This has no impact on the general community at all" still remains true. Your "plight" doesn't affect me, the staff, or 99% of the people here. It doesn't affect anyone's ability to play or post here. It doesn't affect anything but your, and a few others, hurt feelings.
That's not enough to make it Community Affairs worthy. The Community Affairs forum was designed to be the, for lack of a better term, "press box" of C3Airsoft. Where things that are happening within the community would be brought to light or task. "Why isn't there games?" "How come this rule is in place?" "Can we get this feature to make posting easier?" "Why did the mod/staff take that action?" and even "Can we do away with a feature?" Stuff that affects everyone, not just a select few (questions regarding staff not withstanding).
But none of that even gets close to "Heres what you do instead of neg repping me." This is for you, only for you, and you are gambling others have the same problem and dislike it as much as you, so you can hopefully get a bit of a mob mentality going.
As you can see, it didn't work, and now you want to bail on the point.
However, don't feel too bad, thanks to you (and the others who have made similar threads) there will be a change in policy here: From here out... posts that are not STRICTLY community-wide related (Like those examples I put above), are forbidden in the CA forum. And anyone posting specifically to complain about things that only affect them(like negative reputation), will be met with a banning immediately.
I just want to apologize for creating this thread. Looking back on it, it was a useless, and somewhat selfish post to make on my behalf. The reason why I posted this was sparked by an instance of bad rep I received which had "broken the camel's back" in my mind, and I rationalized this thread in any way I thought I could sell. To the point where I convinced myself that I was doing this for the community. Now that I think about it, it was moreso for myself rather than the community, and I am sincerely apologetic. Apologetic for the people whose time I have wasted, and for those who I have irritated or annoyed in any way, shape or form.
The reason why I hate negative rep so much is because I feel that I in no way deserve it when I receieve it, and that the person giving it just had something personal against me. However, looking back at my posts in this thread, I now understand that rep determines post quality, not member quality. So at least one good thing did come of it.
Once again, I just wanted to apologize for whosoevers' nerves I've struck, and those who I've offended or annoyed through this whole situation, and I promise that in the future, I'll try to step up the quality of my posting, so as to hopefully atone for the low quality posts that I've made thus far in the community.
Hmm,
Another Post about the Reputation System? Heres my two cents..
The rep system is a good idea, when it is used properly. I truly did believe somone was "Calling me out" because of my posts.
I found the truth to be, that it is it is all opinion based. There is no "Incorrect" post, its all opinion.
For example, if you were to say " I think this gun is cool", and you got a response with a negetive rep saying; "No its not" . No one is "Correcting" your post, its your opinion that the person is Disagreeing with. Its when people start to call others or harass out and misuse it, then people start to complain because someone is being offended because someone is calling.
But the most important fact of the matter is, no one cares about a reputation. When you are on the field, no one is going to care weather you have a red or green bubble. Technicaly, it dosn't matter. There is no point complaining about it.
Just my two cents...
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Brian... this is dead. It's been sorted out. We all know it's a good idea, but apparently can get abused... And besides Randy already said what is going to happen for now on in his last post.
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