Ran a search and could not find anything mentioning whether homemade weapons are allowed. I am referring to a single, semi-auto, or auto that falls within fps limits. No bazookas or anything obviously.
I have been thinking about building my own sniper and it would be a bummer not to be able to use it besides target practice.
If it's particularly extravagant, it will be at the staff's discretion. For example, we would not allow a compressed air sniper where the FPS is adjustable on the fly. If it fires something besides a 6mm plastic BB, we also have the "shoot it at Lou" test.
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Ran a search and could not find anything mentioning whether homemade weapons are allowed. I am referring to a single, semi-auto, or auto that falls within fps limits. No bazookas or anything obviously.
I have been thinking about building my own sniper and it would be a bummer not to be able to use it besides target practice.
Your going to build a human being?
500 with .2's is the limit.
50 Foot Medium engagement....
Got any questions on the build feel free to pm me.
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I know that this has been brought up before, but... I have Thunder B grenades and would like to know if I could use them. Me and my friends tested two last week and i belive they are not even close to 160 db. Hakkotsu (company that makes them) says that they are 130 db and are about as loud as "an operating pneumatic drill or a plane flying above your head". Also, I saw earlier in this thread that somebody was going to test them, and i would like to know if they indeed were tested.
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I am very interested in coming up and playing sometime. I have a few "noob" questions that I did not find in the forum.
As far as playing goes, in respect to your class load out, what are the rules for weapons? Example - if one has a M4, may they have a MP5 as a back up, or is it pistol only?
I just got my SIG 552 yesterday, and my G3 will be here tomorrow. Does the G3 fall into the "sniper" category or assult, like in COD4.
I am really looking forrward to getting up there in the near furture. My brother in-law just got one too, so it would be at least 2 more.
Welcome to the forums! I suggest you fire off an introduction post while you're here
It's come up a few times but the bottom line is that there is no limit on the number of type of Airsoft guns you bring out with you. You can carry 20 AEGs with you if you want. As long as they fall within our FPS guidelines, they're good to go.
And the only thing that can qualify for the "Sniper Class" is strictly defined in these skirmish rules.
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A special sniper class is recognized with an FPS limit of 500 and a minimum engagement limit of 50 feet. Snipers must take special care not to injure anyone by firing at closer ranges. Snipers must be using a bolt action rifle only: no automatic or semi-automatics allowed.
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Welcome to the forums! I suggest you fire off an introduction post while you're here
It's come up a few times but the bottom line is that there is no limit on the number of type of Airsoft guns you bring out with you. You can carry 20 AEGs with you if you want. As long as they fall within our FPS guidelines, they're good to go.
And the only thing that can qualify for the "Sniper Class" is strictly defined in these skirmish rules.
Introduction post, is there a thread for these already?
Thanks for the info on the # of weapons & classes. I am looking forward to getting up there for sure!
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We like to get started by 10am, and we go till 4 or 5 depending on the season.
As far as an introductory post... look at the New User Section. The first few "non-sticky" posts are introductory posts. Just make your own and say hello.
We like to get started by 10am, and we go till 4 or 5 depending on the season.
As far as an introductory post... look at the New User Section. The first few "non-sticky" posts are introductory posts. Just make your own and say hello.
The starting time has been moved up. Lou moved it to 9:30am.
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Body armor question. When using a chest rig or vest that has plate carriers, do you have to have the simulated plates installed, or just the rig itself. I am planning on building one soon, and I want to make sure I stay within the rules.
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Well I have a full metal custom M4 with an fps of 445 and I was just wondering if I may use .23 gram type bb's to meet the requirements of the skrimish fps rules. If anyone knows if that is possible please respond because I am dieing to know because I just got it and was wondering if I could use it here. Oh and by the way I love c3 and its sponsors ( ArmyNavy of Montgomoryville and Shorty USA ).
Nope, you have to use .2 bbs. Get a spring downgrade.
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No the problem isn't fps the problems is the joules or force. Your gun MUST shoot under 400 with .2g bbs. We couldn't care if you used .43g bbs with the gun they all have the same force because m*v=f as M or v decreases the other increases at a direct rate so the force stays constant. Just buy a weaker spring and your gun will be shootling longer and at a better rate of fire with a simple spring swap.
Also have you had it chronoed at 445 or are you going by the description on some website? If it chronoes at 445 just by an m110 and it should it you right around 380-400
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when it says that the fps limit is generally 400 fps or 500 fps with a bolt action, how would that apply to an electric sniper that uses MOSFED so it can only fire semi auto?
also I have never fired my weapon on anybody within 75 feet. I have a side arm for that, would i not be allowed to play with a 550 fps rifle if im shooting heavy enough bb's to drop below the 500 fps range? (yes i did see that the guns are chrono'd with .2's)
when it says that the fps limit is generally 400 fps or 500 fps with a bolt action, how would that apply to an electric sniper that uses MOSFED so it can only fire semi auto?
also I have never fired my weapon on anybody within 75 feet. I have a side arm for that, would i not be allowed to play with a 550 fps rifle if im shooting heavy enough bb's to drop below the 500 fps range? (yes i did see that the guns are chrono'd with .2's)
The limit would still be 400fps with .2g BBs. Only bolt-action rifles can shoot over 400fps, while still under 500fps. The limit for full and semi auto guns is 400 with .2g BBs.
As for your second question, no you cannot. Any gun that chronoes over 500fps with .2g BBs will not be allowed. Even if you use heavier BBs to get the gun to chrono under 500fps, the BBs will still have the same amount of kinetic energy as the .2g BB moving at 550fps. Thus, the heavier BB will still have the potential to cause the same amount of damage as the .2g BB.
If the type of weapon does not meet the corresponding FPS limits with .2g BBs, it will not be allowed on the field. There are absolutely no exceptions to this rule. It is implemented for safety reasons.
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The final call falls with staff but in five years I have been around the stated field rules are non-negotiable. Sniper rifles are bolt action only with a max ceiling of 500fps with .20 gram BBs A AEG, semi or not is limited to a MAX ceiling of 400fps with .20 Part of this is ( I think) to be complaint with the various fields insurance policies.
Remember that even though a heavier BB is traveling slower it is still carrying greater energy. That is why you can not just use a heavier BB to bring your velocity down. It is why we chrono at big games with supplied BBs.
Welcome to the forums and props for reading the stickied threads. I realize that some of your replicas may not fall with in our limits. I will just encourage you to hang around, attend some games long enough to see why the limits imposed work so well for us for such a long time.
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There are no exceptions. Ever. Bolt Action Sniper Rifles are the only Airsoft replica allowed to shoot over 400. You can pull a semi-auto trigger fast enough to match with some AEGs full auto... so why should we bother with FPS limits at all if we made that kind of exception?
The weight/mass of the BB you're using doesn't matter. If I hit you with a tennis ball at 400fps and a baseball at 400fps which do you think will hurt more? Same applies to BBs.
These are not only C3's rules but they are in line with the Insurance Company guidelines, none of the field owners would take kindly to their rates going up because people want OMGFPSLAWLGUN.
Hopefully this is the last time we have to reiterate this in the thread (or any of the other threads this gets brought up in).
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Welcome to the forums and props for reading the stickied threads. I realize that some of your replicas may not fall with in our limits. I will just encourage you to hang around, attend some games long enough to see why the limits imposed work so well for us for such a long time,
Thanks for the welcome and props, I always make it a point to read through stickies to avoid any problems either on the forum or on the field. Every place has different rules
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There are no exceptions. Ever. Bolt Action Sniper Rifles are the only Airsoft replica allowed to shoot over 400. You can pull a semi-auto trigger fast enough to match with some AEGs full auto... so why should we bother with FPS limits at all if we made that kind of exception?
These are not only C3's rules but they are in line with the Insurance Company guidelines, none of the field owners would take kindly to their rates going up because people want OMGFPSLAWLGUN.
Hopefully this is the last time we have to reiterate this in the thread (or any of the other threads this gets brought up in).
Look first of all I am not some noob 13 year old cod addict that wants an "OMGFPSLAWLGUN" if I wanted that I would have built a bolt action rifle shooting in the mid to high 600's for fps. I built my rifle based on 550 fps because I have never been to an official field. my family owns many acres of land in the mountains out near wilkes-barre and between my huge family and friends we have been playing with lots of people on huge areas of mountain for years. I picked that fps for safe power and extra range, not to be a power junkie kid running around wishing I had the vulcan minnie gun
I would have just appreciated the information I asked for. The bad attitude and the assumptions you made about me as a player were unnecessary and inaccurate
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If the type of weapon does not meet the corresponding FPS limits with .2g BBs, it will not be allowed on the field. There are absolutely no exceptions to this rule. It is implemented for safety reasons.
Thank you for understanding my question. I wouldn't have asked if I was just going to be asking the same thing that was already answered a thousand times. Nothing in the main post addressed MOSFED restriction, and I did not know if exceptions were ever made. so props for a quick and concise answer
The information you asked for has already been given before, upteen billion times, in this very thread to boot. We're not going to cottle and spoonfeed information to everybody who plays Airsoft.
I didn't think that it could get much clearer than "Bolt Action Rifles Only." I'm sorry if that wasn't enough for you.
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The MOSFET variable was not mentioned in the skirmish rules because it has no bearing on our rule-set. Our rules are only concerned with Bolt Action (must be manually actuated between each shot) and an AEG. An AEG with a MOSFET is still an AEG.
You will find our rules are actually not as restrictive as you may imagine, and our field rules are in place because, as Jay correctly explained it, the insurance companies require them.
I hope you come out and enjoy a weekend game at one of the fields we play at.
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I'm pretty sure that this would be where to post it but if it needs to be moved then it's for the good of the forum space. Some fields and organizations I know of have rules on ghille suits. Does C3 have any kind of restrictions on ghillie suits or really any clothing in that regards?
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I'm pretty sure that this would be where to post it but if it needs to be moved then it's for the good of the forum space. Some fields and organizations I know of have rules on ghille suits. Does C3 have any kind of restrictions on ghillie suits or really any clothing in that regards?
No, no specific rules about them. You should be fine if you choose to wear one.
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Ok so im getting an Airsoft GI G4-A3, it is advertised to shoot 380-400 FPS on the webpage. Is there a defenite yes that I will be fine with it because when I first come to a game I don't want it to shoot 410 FPS and then have to drive the hour home. What im trying to say is, are you pretty sure that type of gun will not shoot above 400 FPS?
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Ok so im getting an Airsoft GI G4-A3, it is advertised to shoot 380-400 FPS on the webpage. Is there a defenite yes that I will be fine with it because when I first come to a game I don't want it to shoot 410 FPS and then have to drive the hour home. What im trying to say is, are you pretty sure that type of gun will not shoot above 400 FPS?
The only way to be sure is to chrono the gun yourself. Or go to a location that will chrono your gun for you. (e.g. Montgomeryville Army Navy)
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Ok so im getting an Airsoft GI G4-A3, it is advertised to shoot 380-400 FPS on the webpage. Is there a defenite yes that I will be fine with it because when I first come to a game I don't want it to shoot 410 FPS and then have to drive the hour home. What im trying to say is, are you pretty sure that type of gun will not shoot above 400 FPS?
Will ASGI chrono it for you? Tell them about the field restrictions, and ask them to chrono it for you with 0.20gram BBs. Call them on the phone if you need to.
Any retailer worth their salt should do that for you.
I really just want to get the gun and get out and play! Im going to try to get quick shipping so I can play in the 1/8/11 game.
I think if it shoots above 400 i'll just go to Old Man's shop and have him downgrade the spring like suggested.
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