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Old 03-21-2009, 10:32 PM   #51
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AEG Wow!!!

i just about bought a pair of those so much for that idea
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:16 PM   #52
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Forgive me for opening yet another "Dead-ish" topic, but I do have a question that I don't think was asked. What about the Army of Two Masks from Cactus hobbies? They have a stronger and more reinforced mesh ( 20 gauge). They also have enough room to wear shooting glasses under just for extra protection. All in all I'm trying to sneakily ask if they are even allowed to be worn on your fields?
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:22 PM   #53
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Nope.

It doesn't matter how strong the mesh is. It's the BB that is the problem. The BB shatters and shards go into your eyes.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:39 PM   #54
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I see, so I take that as a no for usage then? Even if one wore extra protection?
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NO. You can not use them, even with extra protection.
Simple as that.
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Sorry for opening this "dead topic" but I want to put in some input

WOW some big peices were in that mix what scares me more would be the small particles that could get stuck in your eye and every time you blink it cuts in deeper and deeper.

Thats why I use either a full face sheild gas mask if its cqb (got shot in the cheek and it began bleeding left a very noticable scar) or shooting glasses for woods. Also Before I even try out using glassis i put them down put on my glasses and shoot at them a few times if they brake oh **** theres 10 dollars down the drain not a life of not ever being allowed to drive and having 0 depth perception

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Sorry for opening this "dead topic" but I want to put in some input

WOW some big peices were in that mix what scares me more would be the small particles that could get stuck in your eye and every time you blink it cuts in deeper and deeper.

Thats why I use either a full face sheild gas mask if its cqb (got shot in the cheek and it began bleeding left a very noticable scar) or shooting glasses for woods. Also Before I even try out using glassis i put them down put on my glasses and shoot at them a few times if they brake oh **** theres 10 dollars down the drain not a life of not ever being allowed to drive and having 0 depth perception
I'm not sure which thing you said is the most stupid. Let's see, they are:
  • You play with a gas mask (which offers no ANSI rating whatsoever)
  • You play BYA
  • You wear shooting glasses while playing airsoft
  • You posted all of the above here.
It really is a toss up. They are all pretty stupid.

For the last time, we don't really care what you do, just keep it off our boards.
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Well just these is just my opinion on this whole sha-bang.
1. I dont believe this experiment is completely fair for a couple reasons.
A. I dont think Ive ever been shot from a distance of 6 Inches. At this point people are supposed to call them selves out.
B. I dont doubt that the .12g BB's Broke they are far less massive than a .20g I know this change in mass doesent seem like alot but it does have a profound effect on the BB.


"Uh, no. F=MA The kinetic energy of a system will remain the same if you only change the weight of the projectile. A gun shooting 1 joule with .20g BBs still shoots at 1 joule with .25s. Granted, heavier projectiles retain their energy better than lighter ones, but we are talking about five hundreths of a gram. the change won't be that significant at 100 meters." -Quote from P7hk9

This is not correct by the way. Im not trying to start a fight just pointing out Kinetic Energy of an object is measured with the following formula

KE=1/2M*V^2

So changing the mass of the BB, as I said has an effect. The weight of the BB is changed to as

Weight=Mass*Acceration

But using this is kind of loopy. The Acceration we use to find is the grand ole' (Small) g or force of gravity which is 9.81 m/s^2. So the Mass changes, as well obviously the mass changed, from .12g to .20g so it does throw a big loop into the problem. I would work this out further but my Physics book is at school.

I dont know how to edit or I would throw this in but also as the BB's are the same size but have different masses the more massive ones will be less dense which as I was trying to explain but I kind of caught a tanget (Ha, math joke). The less dense BB which would be the .12g would have a much higher chance of breaking on somthing that is more dense than it. Its really all about density of the two objects a more dense object will have higher resistance to breaking. All in all density rules.
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:09 PM   #59
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Hey Einstein.The point is accidents happen. Of course no one is supposed to be shooting another player in the face point-blank, but accidents happen. It only takes on slip of the finger to launch a BB that could shatter against a mesh mask. I ,for one, have watched plenty of BB's shatter at longer distances against softer materials than wire mesh.

Perhaps if you weren't so busy trying to make yourself look smart, you would have been able to use a little common sense to realize that all BB's are not created equal and that the variables involved in the kinetic energy or structural integrity of a BB are never as static as you make them out to be. Your whole argument in nullified by the fact the structural density of a little plastic sphere made half way around the world does in fact vary more than most people realize.

That being said. I'm closing this thread for now. Argue all you want, no one can make a good case for taking the risk of losing an eye, no matter how "small" it is. I'll let the other staff members decide if this topic is worth opening again.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:36 AM   #60
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This is not correct by the way. Im not trying to start a fight just pointing out Kinetic Energy of an object is measured with the following formula

KE=1/2M*V^2
I know how to measure the energy an object has. We are measuring the energy of a system.

F=MA is indeed the correct equation. "F" is constant in an AEG (it's the spring), therefore, if "M" changes, "A" must change for the equation to remain equal. You can change the weight of the BB, but the overall energy of the system does not change.
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